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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:27 pm 
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My apologies if this has already been covered. I searched the forums and didn't find the answer to my exact question.

I shoot video with my Sony a6000 in XAVC S 1080p. As of right now, I cannot upload this video to my iPad Pro using an SD card reader, the lightning to USB dongle with USB to micro plugged into my camera, or the Sony Play Memories app.

My ultimate goal is to travel for weeks sometimes months at a time without having access to a computer and using an iPad Pro as my only editing device. If I purchase this app, is there a way to import XAVC S video files without having to convert them? Specifically, will I be able to import XAVC S video into Luma Fusion into my iPad Pro using Apple's proprietary SD to lightning dongle, something I cannot do now with iMovie or Photos?

Thank you in advance for your assistance with this.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:34 am 
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hello idbloom

the short answer is no, you won't be able to do it. The iPad and all other iOS devices will only support .mp4 and .mov files.

I had a quick look at the app store on my iPad and couldn't find anything that would handle the conversion from XAVC S to mp4.

It seems like the only way to do it is to carry a laptop that would handle the conversion for you (i did find apps for mac that would do the conversion).

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Androu Morgan

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 11:51 am 
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Thank you for the reply. I was hoping there would be a similar solution as there is with Lightroom Mobile importing raw still images.

I've heard mixed results but am rolling the dice with the solution offered here. For <$20, I'm willing to gamble.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/75 ... 0&tstart=0

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[/It is possible to import 4K Sony XAVC-S footage directly into an iPad Pro but the process requires a few extra steps and a 3rd party SD card reader.



As you know, Apple doesn't directly support the XAVC-S file structure (as of iOS10) so you can't use the Apple SD Card reader. The Apple USB adapter is problematic because of power issues between the iPad and the camera.



However, XAVC-S uses an MP4 wrapper (creates mp4 video files) which the iPad can play and you can extract them using a 3rd party lightning to SD card reader.



Here's what I do:

I bought an "iReader" Lightning to SD card reader made by YKSH from Amazon.com. I'm sure there are others but this was $20 and had 4.5 star rating. It's kind of like Apple's SD reader.



The trick to the process is the card reader needs an app that supports file browsing through all folders on an SD card. It also needs to be able to copy files to the camera roll on the iPad.



I plug the SD card into the reader then plug the reader into the iPad. Launch the app (in this case, it's called iDiskk Pro) then navigate to PRIVATE/M4ROOT/CLIP subfolder. This is where the XAVC-S 4K files are stored (they're saved as MP4 files). I select the files I want to import then add them to the camera roll.



From there, you can use the files like any other video on the iPad...view them, import them into iOS iMovie, etc. Works well and the reader is pretty fast at copying.



I have an iPad Pro 12" but also tried on my iPad Air 2 and it worked.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:46 pm 
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This is very interesting, and thank you for adding to our knowledge base.

Let me know how you get on with this.

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Androu Morgan

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:08 pm 
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Will do. I'll report back on it later this week.

I have seen folks on YT upload XAVCS 1080p directly from their RX100 to an iPad using the MTP setting for their USB and utilizing the lightning to USB dongle, and then USB to micro cable into their camera, but they have an additional menu option to modify the power setting for the USB where it won't trigger an error and put the camera in suspended animation as it does with my a6000. I'll double check later tonight but 99% sure I'm running the most current firmware update for the a6000.

I remain cautiously optimistic.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:58 pm 
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A friend of mine uses this solution for his Sony 4K Action Camera. It works for him. I think there is an MP4 file in the XAVC container, which can be imported using the iReader hardware and app.

Not ideal, but it works. Good luck.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:30 pm 
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Greetings,

I used the iReader in conjunction with the iDisk Pro app and it worked fine. As mentioned, it is recognized as an MP4. Successfully edited one video on my iPad using iMovie. Now that I know there's a workable solution to import and use these files, time to buy Luma Fusion.

All in all it just creates a couple extra steps. Hopefully iOS 11 will iron some of this out with their upcoming files app, as it appears to be just a software issue.

Thanks again.

Ian


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 2:08 pm 
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I was wondering about this same compatibility issue. So I did a test...

I’ve got a Sony RX10 II, which shoots XAVC-S in 4K and 1080p. In the 1080p modes, you can also shoot 240fps slow-motion (in 2 second bursts), and 120p (which can be recorded continuously, and then be slowed down to whatever slow-mo rate you want).

I’ve also got a Leica D-Lux 109 point-and-shoot that also films 4K at 24p (in h.264).

I filmed clips from both cameras, then tried to load clips to my iPad Pro 10.5” with the Apple SD Card Reader to Lightning Adapter. No dice.

Today I went to Apple and picked up a new USB 3 Lightning Adapter. First I hooked up my Leica D-Lux to it via the included USB cable. My 4K clip showed up in the import window, and I was able to import it without an issue.

Next, I connected the Sony RX10 II via it’s micro-USB cable. I had three clips on the card: one 4K 24p clip, one 1080p/240FPS slow-mo clip, and one 1080p/120p clip. Only the two 1080p clips showed up in the import window; the 4K clip wasn’t being seen by the iPad. So I imported those two clips.

Then I remembered something. In the past, I’ve run into issues with cameras that don’t like (or can’t play back) multiple size/resolution clips on the same card. So I disconnected the camera, switched it on, formatted the card, and re-recorded a fresh 4K clip. This time, when I connected the camera to the iPad, the 4K clip was there, and I was able to import it without an issue.

Now I’ve got a test sequence in Luma Fusion with two 4K clips from two different cameras, and the two 1080p slow-mo clips, and everything seems fine.

I can’t say for sure if mixing formats on the card was the problem, but I’ll do some more testing and see what I can find.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:32 pm 
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I am moving 4K XAVC-S 24p 100M to LumaFusion using Resilio Sync. It creates a synced folder across multiple devices. You just drag the file in to the folder on your computer and open Sync on your ipad and import it directly to LumaFusion.

Update: I am a total ipad noob... Apparently you can just drag all your files into the app on itunes. Its accepting all my XAVC-S video 1080p and 4K, no problem. A lot faster and easier too. :)

I love LumaFusion!


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